A Question of Atheism

 

 

Written by Mathew Naismith


I wrote this post in relation to the following query.


“So, how I stumbled upon your post upon looking for YouMe Social. I'm wanting to get some clarification about your claim that YouMe Social is pro atheist. This is concerning as I'm not...

I'm Christian and also with YouMe Social. I don't visit it regularly but wanted to check it out as I came across it from an article about FB alternatives. But, if what you say is true, I then I will cancel my account.”


I joined a humanity group set up by a known atheist, in actuality, youme social was supported and set up from G+ by atheists, the owners of youme is a known atheist to begin with.


What I am going to do is try to post a post on this blog showing my initial post in this community that resulted in a person named Grace, a known atheist, using intimidation by discussing anything but what the post of mine was about time and time again. This was allowed to go on due to the creator and moderator of the humanity group also being an atheist, you will see why.


Talk about self-dishonesty

Written by Mathew Naismith


I have discovered, through direct interaction, that a lot of atheists simply believe that we are all born atheistic. This claim by many atheists has never been backed up with hard core evidence. It is simply a belief, an obvious display of blind faith, a faith that we are all born atheistic. I of course supplied evidence to the contrary, even evidence to this from other atheists. Cognition for starters proves this claim by many atheists as simply being of a belief.


The point is, how can atheism honestly and logically denounce religion for their beliefs when a lot of atheists are obviously also of beliefs? So it is okay for atheists to live by beliefs but not religion!!  I should point out that not all atheists are of this belief but amazingly enough so many are.


 Of course people of faith, other than atheists that is, don't like their views/beliefs questioned!!

 

Having experienced numerous interactions with atheists, they state very few claims of their own while at the same time supplying as little evidence to their claims as possible. This is to deceptively avoid their own claims and beliefs being questioned, this includes supplying as little evidence as possible to their claims as all evidence can also be questioned. Of course when they do state a claim, as above, they don't support this claim with actual evidence, just simple allegations and assumptions!!


 It has been said to me, I state too much and supply too much evidence which can be questioned, state as little as possible while supplying as little evidence to your claims. I couldn't imagine being this deceptive and dishonest myself, sadly, these tactics are often accepted while open minded honesty is frowned upon!!       


From atheism to religion, where has our honesty and self-honesty gone?


Finally, religions have their own symbol representing their own religion or faith, so does atheism. And they say atheism hasn't been turned into another radical religion!! I personally know of atheists who no longer want to be known as atheistic because of the religious radicalisation of today's atheism.


As I also wrote on youme just before writing the above as members who did not like their own views questioned, especially when it was to do with atheism as I found out, were seemingly deliberately going off topic.

 

OK, this is the way I look at it. If you are a member of Youme, you represent Youme but if you are an admin, moderator or what ever of Youme in any way, you represent Youme and it's members.

 

A footballer's conduct off field is as important to the football club as their conduct on field, this is overseen by the football league itself as any misconduct by the players representing the football league comes back on the football league itself, not just the football club. Look at Youme as the league and the groups as the clubs. Should we accept extremists and people who want to dominate us all on Youme with their own views and thoughts? Yes, a members conduct off field matters to Youme as much as the conduct on field. Also, try to look at the members of Youeme as being the players of the football league.

 

Am I being unreasonable? Not if we want a sustainable free thinking social network, of course there are members who don't want this, we must take this into consideration as well.

 

Also, please keep to the main topic of an OP as much as possible. It is a simple show of respect and maturity, not just for the presenter of the OP but to Youme's members as a whole. Yes, we all need to be reminded of this especially when of opposing views, this is quite understandable.

 

Atheism totally relies on the existence of a belief system to exist, in other words atheism to exist totally relies on a belief system to disbelieve in. Yes, this is the kind of material I wrote on youme social. How long was a radicalised atheist social group going to put up with this much truth and questioning of their doctrines? Yes, I also proved atheism has dogmatic doctrines.

 

Now I was accused by atheists on youme social a number of times not liking my own views questioned, so what group of people on youme intimidated and removed a person questioning their beliefs, disbelief's and doctrines in the end? The end result says it all. I actually asked to be removed due to endless intimidation by atheists on youme, even after leaving youme social as follow.


Jamez: Jamez Frondeskias "after being made a moderator"? Not on the site you weren't. Never was and it was never raised as a possibility.

 

Jamez Frondeskias You got evicted from the site for your language and behaviour towards one female member on the site and the tirade of [and i will be nice with the following words] "compliments" you paid one of the female moderators in a chat.

 

You chose to take the path that resulted in you being kicked out. Maybe, rather than blame everyone else, you look - as I suggested numerous times - to read your own comments as an outsider and see how they came across.

 

Don't blame others for your own actions Mathew.”

 

There was talk on youme that I was going to be made a moderator, seen as this was not corrected, I assumed this was the case. My language never resulted in calling people names, but I was called numerous names by atheists when questioning their beliefs.


The following is the reply to Heather, the humanity group moderator, t the exact same reply I was intimidated for, all by known atheists strangely enough.


Of course not, going deliberately off topic numerous times is what, especially when asked a number of times to stay on topic. It is not a debate when you go off topic like this, so what is it Heather? Simply an argumentative exchange which has no purpose but to intimidate. So it is obvious you encourage argumentative exchanges it would seem!! 
 

Humanity = The quality of being human  

 

Debate = A discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal
 

I cannot see where obvious argumentative exchanges comes under either debate or humanity!!
 

It would also seem you encourage that no one should stay on topic as well. Not only this, you encourage people to go off topic as well as enforcing argumentative exchanges!! 
 

So showing a deliberate disrespect for the presenter of the OP isn't rude to you, even when asked numerous times to stay on topic? Actually, Grace was never on topic from the start. 

 

Intimidate = Make timid or fearful, To compel or deter by or as if by threats

 

Especially after your response here, I am fearful of putting myself through such an unwarranted behaviour again that has nothing to do with the OP. So actually you are encouraging intimidation as well it would seem!! 

 

This is certainly a threat to human decency wouldn't you say Heather? So as long as you are indecent, the humanity group is for you? You are actually asking me to put up with intimidation and indecency, in a humanity group!! 
 

Indecency = An indecent or improper act 
 

I had no idea you were like this Heather, so be it. 
 

In the future Heather, please, never ask me to put up with obvious indecency and intimidation again as I have proven here. I am an advocate against abuse, I will not tolerate abuse of this kind by people like you and Grace in any group or social network. OK, you are obviously an advocate for abuse which simply says we will never see eye to eye. 

 

Unbelievable and they wonder why the world is the way it is!!"

  

On another social network, I have numerous friends and I have been asked to join a number of groups, unlike Youme. If the problem was with me, why is this quite the opposite on another social network? The honest answer is quite interesting."


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